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You don't get any frogger then Mark Strand
Strand spent nearly 24 years on Capitol Hill in both the House and
the Senate, most recently serving as Chief of Staff to James Talent
(R-MO). He served as the Staff Director of the House Committee on Small
Business when Talent was Chairman. He was also chief of staff for Reps.
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During a brief interlude from the Hill from 2001-2002, Strand was
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Communist Defector Says KGB Created "Liberation Theology" - The New AmericanTHENEWAMERICAN.COMCommunist Defector Says KGB Created "Liberation Theology" - The New American- Reply
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Patrick Farrell
Lourdes Cosio Communism with a thin candy shell
Lourdes Cosio
Patrick Farrell well put
Greg Voci
Lourdes Cosio no surprise at all.
Lourdes Cosio
For
the record, these comments are not meant to support the idea that
"RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!" is the cause of all our problems and the only
evildoer on the planet. Way more complicated than that.
Mark Strand
Lourdes Cosio
But they sure don't help much. Though as the focus of communism for
most of the 20th Century they have contributed untold amounts of misery
on the world.
Lourdes Cosio
They sure have.
Lourdes Cosio
Mark Strand
the thing is, who invented communism? Who were the Bolsheviks?
"Russia" is only one entrance to a deep rabbit hole. There are others.
Mark Strand
Agreed, but the Soviet Union definitely is one of history's most evil countries.
Lourdes Cosio
Mark Strand
agreed. And how it got so evil is very interesting, with implications
for all of us. Conversation for another day ... away from our personal
spying devices. 
Lourdes Cosio
My
point with this post is to underscore that we are being manipulated in
ways we can't imagine. I think most people can wrap their heads around
that ... it's become glaringly obvious. But what I'm trying to say is:
it's way, way worse than that. The article points only to one campaign
by the KGB. But how many campaigns have there been? Not just by the KGB?
And when did they start? etc.
Mark Strand
Lourdes Cosio With Cain's attempt to cover up his murder of Abel.
Archpriest Symeon Elias
CIA
hypocrisy on this thread. It is a documented fact that at the end of
WWII, the Doctor Megela-type medical experiments continued with many of
the same NAZI doctors and a host of new Americans, under the control of
the CIA. When you address that, Mr Strand, then we can talk.
Archpriest Symeon Elias
The
historical roots of liberation theology are to be found in the
prophetic tradition of evangelists and missionaries from the earliest
colonial days in Latin America -- churchmen who questioned the type of
presence adopted by the church and the way indigenous peoples, blacks,
mestizos, and the poor rural and urban masses
were treated. Bartolomé de las Casas
Bartolomé
de las Casas was a 16th-century Spanish landowner, friar, priest, and
bishop, famed as a historian and social reformer and can rightly be
called the father of Liberation Theology. Other early exponents of
Liberation Theology were, Antonio de Montesinos, Antonio Vieira, and
Brother Caneca. The first two died before 1700 and the later in the
1800s. Did the Marxist adopt it? Yes. Was it a product of the KGB?
No. Liberation theology met Marxism at the University of Chicago.
Mark Strand
Archpriest Symeon Elias
Well, since the CIA was not created until well after WWII that seems to
be a stretch. But, that is a brand new conspiracy theory I had not
heard before. I'll add it to the collection.
Archpriest Symeon Elias
Mark Strand
OSS Operation Paperclip taken over by the CIA in 47 Operation Artichoke
took the NAZI doctors and nothing about it, you lying shill, is theory.
It is the documented history.
Mark Strand
Archpriest Symeon Elias
you are embellishing rather significantly, but it's a blessing to see
an "arch priest" use such ad hominem. Quite a witness big boy.
Archpriest Symeon Elias
You are still lying. I haven't embellished anything, merely reporting CIA freedom of information documents from the time.
And
as for the "valid information" from the defector, Pacepa, He was
rabidly anti-Russian and anti-Orthodox. In his 2007 book
"Disinformation," he made no distinction between Communist Soviet Union
and post-communist Russia. Anyone with knowledge of the history of his
own disinformation knows he was a talented fiction writer. Pacepa was
such a fiction writer that he claimed to have "Liberated" Romanian
Archbishop Augustin Pacha in exchange for two KGB spies caught in West
Germany - the problem is the Archbishop was lying in his crypt at the
time.
Archpriest Symeon Elias
Rex Christi - I'm thinking CIA shill - can't claim it, surely SES mouthpiece - can't claim it, but I'm thinking it.
Lourdes Cosio
Archpriest Symeon Elias thanks for your comments. I'm open to new information about all of this.
As
far as I know, Bartolome de las Casas was as a great Catholic and as
such could not advocate for anything that was anti-Catholic or
destructive to Catholicism, as Marxist Liberation Theology is. Thus I
would say it is a misnomer to call him the "Father of Liberation
Theology." However, that Liberation Theology might try to trace its
roots back to something good, true, and real (assuming that whatever he
observed about the church and the local peoples at that time was good
true and real, since I have no reason to think otherwise) doesn't
surprise me.... in fact, leftists have no choice but to do that. They
can't generate; they can only corrupt what is already there. Just as
Satan cannot generate, but only try to destroy / invert what God has
created.
As
for Pacepa being a disinformation agent, you may well be right. Clearly
you know more about him than I do, and if that's the case, it's
significant.
As
for Mark Strand, I'm very confident that he's not a CIA shill. Not
because I'm a hopeless normie who lives in La La Land, but because I
have some basis for discerning these things and have known him
personally for years, but also and importantly, I know plenty of actual
spies and disinformation agents, and he doesn't fit the bill. Of
course, I could be wrong.
Archpriest Symeon Elias
Yes,
Classical Liberation Theology, which was an answer to the missionary
abuses of poor populations, was appropriated by the Marxists, as both
Antonio Gramsci and Saul Alinsky said, "to stir up the natural animosity
between groups and classes." Now a whole garbage can of heresies and
abuses has been placed under the banner of Liberation Theology, like the
Pride Movement et al. This was not a KGB operation but an operation of
the Frankfort School, a group of Trotskyite, mostly Jewish
Intellectuals. It was not a "communist plot" but an anti-Christ plot
here in the U.S. It was exploited by the Marxists in Central and South
America.
Archpriest Symeon Elias
As
for Strand, anyone who answers FACTS with "Oh, that's a conspiracy
theory" uses the CIA-invented ploy. From his first words, he has no
credibility with me.
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