The Sweet Seductive Sounds of Luciferian Philosophy vs Truth

Thoreau is another one of those characters who tried to reinvent the "religious wheel," styling it as poetry and philosophy and not theology, but his words always had theological implications. He did this, like so many in the so-called "enlightenment," UNenlightened of the teachings of Orthodoxy or purposely ignoring them; so in his writings are many things that have a familiar ring to the Orthodox Mindset, yet in the end, he offers nothing more than a single ego's ramblings. One has to ask of Thoreau, though his words were often contextually beautiful, what theological foundation did they hold? And the answer is:

his own ego.

When he speaks about truth, like all of the enlightenment writers, one has to ask "what truth" because their versions of truth are without foundation, or better have multiple foundations of fantasies parading as truth.

Rex Christi

As a young teen, I found him exciting and he affirmed my anarchist tendencies; until I read Ayn Rand.

So long as people think and behave like children and adolescents, paganism/pantheism will be quite attractive.

Katee Owens

Rex Christi ah, Ayn Rand. I was gifted Atlas Shrugged in High School. Still have it.

Rex Christi

it is a fun read for an adolescent, but it is shy of substance and decent prose for an adult.

 

 

John Parziale

I knew maybe 10% of the story and poetry of Thoreau. Seems I had written some similar to him and also Dali according to a woman who dated the latter. “I don’t do drugs.. I make my own within”

And with the former:

“We need to simplify our lives”

But I’ve found my early quotes later in maybe two dozen famous mouths over the years afterwards.

And even if the famous person was deeply flawed.. it was some of their best ideas nonetheless.

Archpriest Symeon Elias

John Parziale, I deleted your invitation to debate because your constant suggestion and assumption that "we" share the same path and experience is more than fantasy. Any debate inside that fantasy is, from its base, a lie. I will comment for your sake that the so-called classic argument you suggested is an error of antiquity over truth. Something of antiquity is not held because it is old; it is maintained because it is true. The opposite is something contemporary is not valued because it is trendy but because it is true. It is a failure to grasp the nature of truth that is immutable.

Truth is the commonality, not age. Your assumption is based on evolutionary assumptions and not revelatory history. Your question is, indeed, common in the world based on evolutionary thinking created by the enlightenment.

As for Thoreau, his presuppositions were, as I stated, from the enlightenment movement, which is at its core Luciferian. From a base of "enlightenment," one may muck about and say many words (you have been gifted this way) and never state more than temporary and contextual truth. And BTW, it wouldn't matter in which age Thoreau spoke since, in reality, Thoreau was a gnostic retread in poetry, as are most of the poets and philosophers of the Enlightenment.

Those who do not openly espouse Luciferianism create the "middle way" of Gnosticism and "enlightened spiritualities," most based on false concepts of "love" and all ultimately having the same Luciferian core.

 

John Rolf

John has a knack for illustrating my arguments while misunderstanding them.

 

 

Archpriest Symeon Elias

Katee Owens One cannot fully embrace both Christianity and Objectivism. "Conservative Christians who embrace [Rand] as the "enemy-of-my-enemy" seem to forget that she considered us the enemy. " She was the quintessential High Priestess of Illuminati propaganda, backed by Rothschild money, rumored to pay for their backing via sexual submission to Phillip Rothschild (then patriarch of the Rothschild family) when he reposed she kept a string of young lovers. Her job was to turn Conservatives "inhuman," getting them to abandon Christian Humanitarianism, as expressed by Jesus, Saint Paul, and Isaiah - feed the hungry, clothe the naked, etc. Ryan convinced Conservatives these were "socialist/Marxist" ideas.

At the same time, the Marxist-Humanists took control and produced "inhuman" humanistic welfare that destroyed everything it touched. The point was to remove Christianity and Christian Morality from "charity." Now, charity has become Satanic - the NGOs a means of genocide and slavery.

Ayn Rand's work, more than anything else, robbed the heterodox Christians in the U.S. of their humanitarianism - and the complete implosion and subversion of Catholic Charities is the major proof of this, and the conquest of the Protestant Missions boards by the CIA is the second.